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« on: August 31, 2009, 04:00:04 PM »

It is very easy to double or triple charge handgun rounds.





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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2009, 04:14:46 PM »

 shocked What happened?!?!? Is this your weapon? Anyone hurt?
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2009, 07:12:20 PM »

Can a gun like that be repaired or is it scrap / parts now?
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2009, 08:54:34 PM »

HOLY SHIT!!!!!!

ANYBODY HURT?!

IS THIS YOUR REVOLVER?
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2009, 10:31:58 PM »

bummer dude.  I hope that wasn't yours and that no one got hurt.

And it's scrap.  The company won't fix it.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2009, 11:01:30 PM »

No not mine. Just thought I would share...
owner was fine.

The owner was pretty scared. it "kicked" so hard it pulled one of the bullets like a kinetic puller.
Primers not seated sufficiently deep in the pockets? My guess the culprit here is a double charge due to carelessness. He is lucky that there were only three rounds in the gun. Six going off at once probably would have resulted in more of a mark on his pieces parts.

His wife loaded for him
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2009, 11:42:27 PM »

This is one reason why I NEVER use a progressive press and I always check and recheck my charges with a light and compare to the load data.
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2009, 06:34:44 PM »

yea thats the reason I bought my bullet puller.  One day I handloaded when I was tired, I went to the range the next day... Every trigger pull I heard the jaws theme in my head.
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2009, 06:43:22 PM »

yea thats the reason I bought my bullet puller.  One day I handloaded when I was tired, I went to the range the next day... Every trigger pull I heard the jaws theme in my head.

Been there done that. don't drink beer while reloading.
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2009, 06:49:32 PM »

When in doubt pull them out. This is exactly why I single stage load only. You see, I inspect every aspect of the process. Trim length, primer seat depth, powder charge (double check and check again against published load data) OAL and headspace. I try to leave nothing to chance.

It's tough to weigh a pistol bullet to look for irregularities. A rifle bullet is easy to see if you missed a charge..it will be 20-80grs lighter depending on the cartridge.
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2009, 07:31:28 PM »

HOLY CRAP!!!  Glad to hear shooter was OK.  Txshooter Do you mind if I post these pics to two other reloading/shooting messageboards as an example? (thehighroad & PAFOA.org)
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2009, 07:50:52 PM »

My pistol loading is one at a time. Double charging scares me. The flashlight thing does not work with 4 grains. Rifle I want to load 95-100 capacity. I have double charged rifle and it spills everywhere. So hard to double charge. I had a old timer tell me if your brass is not filled to capacity switch powders.


Was not my pistol. Was just sharing the pictures. I know people who start off with the MAX in a ladder test

I am to paranoid  to have that happen. I have OCD so I double and triple check everything. It takes me all night to get a CAOL measurement with a stoney point. I keep tiring different bullets....
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2009, 08:42:26 PM »

Not sure if this is the best place for this question, but with the previous statements I was curious when you're charging your cases and you're looking to produce match grade rounds. I would imagine you would want a slightly compressed charge to eliminate inconsistencies with powder settling to the bottom of the case before you fire and throwing the accuracy off when you fire. Am I correct in assuming that or does it not matter?

I was looking at the progressive presses and decided against it simple because I thought it would be hard to ensure with each lever pull that each operation was correctly completed.
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2009, 10:08:39 PM »

Not really unless it's a rifle round using a cast bullet load. Pistol doesn't matter so much.
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2009, 10:23:20 PM »

When in doubt pull them out. This is exactly why I single stage load only. You see, I inspect every aspect of the process. Trim length, primer seat depth, powder charge (double check and check again against published load data) OAL and headspace. I try to leave nothing to chance.

It's tough to weigh a pistol bullet to look for irregularities. A rifle bullet is easy to see if you missed a charge..it will be 20-80grs lighter depending on the cartridge.

Ammo I have been reloading since the early 60's on a single stage press and would never consider changing to a progressive press because I've seen way too many reloaders run into too many problems with their progressives. I have a buddy who sold his single stage press and went out and bought an expensive progressive presses in the 80's. After destroying a S&W Model 29, shortly there after from his reloads on his progressive press he now only puts one die at a time in his progressive press and uses it as if it were a single stage press.

Like you I check and double check each and every operation to the completion of every box of ammo I reload. I trust nothing to the mechanics of a a machine when it comes to reloading.
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